Panel Discussion: A Preview of "Our Oceans"

On Wednesday, September 2, 2015, The Pew Charitable Trusts held an event to preview the Our Ocean conference, which will be hosted by the Chilean government in Valparaíso, Chile, on October 5 and 6.


Excerpt, from 1:19:35 in the video, with Matt Rand, director of the Global Ocean Legacy project at The Pew Charitable Trusts.

Matt: Ian, in your investigation over a year and a half, you reported on a murder, piracy, slavery, possible illegal fish entering into the United States. It was an amazing set of articles, my question to you is: out of everything you covered is there anything that was surprising to you to find out about during your investigation?

Ian: Truth be told, it was all surprising to me. I expected to find a beautiful, vast space out there that had some degree of lawlessness but not the degree that we found. I was most struck by how complicated a space it is, and how difficult fixes will be, ultimately, because it is a tragedy of the global commons and it is a space, the high-seas in particular, that belong to everyone and no one.