On Wednesday, September 2, 2015, The Pew Charitable Trusts held an event to preview the Our Ocean conference, which will be hosted by the Chilean government in Valparaíso, Chile, on October 5 and 6.
Excerpt, from 1:19:35 in the video, with Matt Rand, director of the Global Ocean Legacy project at The Pew Charitable Trusts.
Matt: Ian, in your investigation over a year and a half, you reported on a murder, piracy, slavery, possible illegal fish entering into the United States. It was an amazing set of articles, my question to you is: out of everything you covered is there anything that was surprising to you to find out about during your investigation?
Ian: Truth be told, it was all surprising to me. I expected to find a beautiful, vast space out there that had some degree of lawlessness but not the degree that we found. I was most struck by how complicated a space it is, and how difficult fixes will be, ultimately, because it is a tragedy of the global commons and it is a space, the high-seas in particular, that belong to everyone and no one.